This is Circulating Ideas, I’m Steve Thomas. My guest today is Rita Meade. She’s a children’s librarian at a public library in Brooklyn. In her spare time she blogs at Screwy Decimal, reviews kid’s books for School Library Journal and writes for Book Riot. You can follow her on Twitter @screwydecimal.
Rita, welcome to the show.
Thank you, thanks for having me.
You are a librarian and you’re in a band, so you’re, you really are a librarian rockstar!
[laughs] I, that’s a very controversial topic right isn’t it? So.
Yeah [laughs], but you really are, so you can, you really can take that.
Well, it depends, it depends on your definition of star and rock. But…
You know, we do make music sometimes, although we haven’t in a very long time. So, I might be losing that moniker.
Oh no! [laughs]
What. Well tell me about your band, what kind of music do you guys play and how did you guys get together?
Well, the band is called Lost In The Stacks and it actually got together before, way before I even joined them. Jack McCleland, who is one of the supervising librarians at the Central branch of Brooklyn Public Library, formed the band, I think it was 2008, or 2004, I can’t remember, I, I did not do my research very well for the…
That’s all right. [laughs]
Sorry, but it’s, the number of members of the band varies, it’s got some brass in it, like trombones, saxophones, it’s got guitars, it’s got a drummer of course, so… even a flute player, so it’s a very, it’s a very interesting mix of people. Most of them are librarians in the band, all the band members are librarians except for a couple key players. Cause it’s hard to find, it’s hard to find a, a drummer, I don’t know if you were ever in a band, but, it’s hard to find a good drummer. So.
Well I, in High School I was in just the High School band, just marching band [laughs] and that stuff. But, I did play drums there, but.
Oh, see. So you know, a good drummer is hard to find definitely. It’s a mix of music, it’s, it is rock, we do some jazz standards, bluesy kind of stuff, it’s fun, it’s just a mixture of different people and then different styles of music and…
And do you, do you play an instrument? Or are you, do you just sing? Or…?
Right now, I just sing. I used to play the piano when I was a kid and then I thought I could play it again as an adult and it turns out I can’t really. So, for a couple of gigs I did sit in on the keyboards and tinkled around, but it wasn’t adding much and then it was annoying to have to bring a keyboard everywhere, so. Sometimes I’ll play a tambourine, which you wouldn’t expect it but it does add a lot to the performance.
Yeah, when it’s just your voice, that’s a, your voice is a lot easier to carry around with you.
Yeah [laughs] yes.
So, Bill Barnes and Gene Ambaum from Unshelved recently finished up a Kickstarter project for their Library Rangers badges and one of the stretch goals of that was that they were going to compose and perform a library rangers theme, along with a very special guest who just happens to be you. How did you get involved with that project?
Beer is how I got involved. Bill and his friend came to Brooklyn, I, last month or two months ago, whenever that was and I’m friends with Bill on Twitter, so he said he was going to be in Brooklyn, let’s get together, I said, “Yeah, great.” So we met in Park Slope, in a bar and I knew about the library rangers project already, but he was explaining it more and talking about the incentives and the goals they were trying to meet and he was talking about the anthem that they were going to compose and I was, “I can help sing it if you want.” Not thinking he would take me seriously, because I had had a lot of beer. But he said, “Yeah, that would be great.” I was “Oh, wow,” so it was just one of those things that snowballed from a joke and then it turned into a real thing and then they actually reached the goal, which was great, so, yeah, it was one of those, one of those things that you say and then turn into a serious idea. I don’t really know what’s happening with it yet, I think Bill, I think they’re still composing it. We have to work out the logistics of recording from a distance, that kind of thing, but whatever happens I, I’m totally up for it.
Well it sounds like fun [laughs].
Well you’ve got your own blog Screwy Decimal and you also blog a lot for Book Riot. When did you start blogging at Screwy Decimal and what do you hope people get out of reading it?
I started the blog, I guess it was around 2010. I don’t really know why I started, I think it was just I had been posting things on Facebook, about the funny things that would happen during my day as a librarian and then people would say, “Oh this is funny,” and then I thought, well, maybe I’ll just put all the stories into one place and collect them for myself to see the progression of my career, I guess. And it just took off from there. I started the Twitter account and I just want people to get a real snapshot of library life, the funny side. My sister’s actually the one who helped create the name Screwy Decimal and it really does describe my job and the things that I’m trying to show people, like libraries aren’t really that quiet any more, they’re not, it’s not a boring job where you’re just sitting around reading, that kind of thing. Just trying to dispel the stereotypes that are still floating out there because even some of my family members and friends don’t really understand what a librarian does during the day, so that was sort of my initial goal, to show them this, this is what’s really happening, at least in my public library.
Yeah, you often, like you said, post on your blog and on Twitter about your fun and also not-so-fun sometimes interactions with patrons and people sometimes joke, tell the joke of this job would be great if it weren’t for all the patrons and ha ha ha, but what, public service I think is a big reason a lot of us join the profession. Is that, do you find that to be the case?
Definitely. I worked in libraries since I was 14 and I was always, my favorite part was interacting with the public. Even back then, when I wasn’t supposed to answer questions as a library page, I would love to answer questions if people asked me, so that’s definitely one of the main reasons I’m in public libraries and why I want to stay in public libraries. And yeah, the patrons can be interesting sometimes, it’s not always easy interacting with the general public, but that’s the job and that’s what I believe in, so it’s fun.
So you said you got started in libraries when you were 14 as a page?
And how, how has your career progressed since then? When did you get into libraries as an adult and when did you really realize that’s really what you wanted to do as a career?
It wasn’t really a straight path. I got the library page job at 14, I was in and out of libraries throughout college, I’d go back for the summer to work for the summer reading club. And then I went to college, finished college and was, “I love working in libraries but I don’t want to be a librarian.” I didn’t really even consider that an option, I don’t know why, cause my mom told me to and she still makes fun of me to this day for not just listening to her in the first place. But, I actually, I initially, after college I had a couple of office jobs unrelated to anything I wanted to pursue in the future, so then eventually I went to grad school. the first time for teaching, I was teaching High School English and I just ended up really not liking it. Teachers have my absolute admiration, I don’t, I mean it’s, it was the hardest job I ever was part of, so it just wasn’t for me. And then I got out of teaching and flailed around for a little while, “What did I do with my life? Where am I, what am I going to do?” And it just hit me one day and I forget who I was, I forget the initial inspiration to go back to library school, but I was talking to someone about not knowing what to do and regret, not regretting quitting teaching cause that was really the right choice for me, but when you give up something that you worked so hard for, it’s kind of hard to see what’s next. So, she told me a story about her friend’s niece or something who was a photographer, really well-known photographer, it was a great job, she got to travel, but she hated it and then she, so she quit and went back to library school and that was when I was, “Oh my god, yes.” It was sort of like an epiphany and…
The light bulb came on.
Yeah, I was, “How did I not think of this before?” So, I did it and I went back to school, I had support from my parents, I had moved back at home by that point, so it was a rough time in my life and my mom’s, like, “Are you serious right now? You can’t go back to school again.” But, I was, “No, this is it, this is going to be good,” and so I started my second master’s program and got a job as a librarian trainee at my former library, so it was like coming home again. And then I, right before I finished grad school, library school, I got, I interviewed for the job where I work now and it just, it just all worked out. I got hired at Brooklyn Public Library before we had a huge hiring freeze, so I was very lucky to get in when I did and that, that’s where it all, where it all came, came to a head and I’m still there and it’s, it’s good.
And are you still, are you in the same position as you were when you first started there?
I’m still a children’s librarian. I was hired as a children’s librarian. You go up the steps a little bit, so.
You start as, I actually technically started as a trainee, because I hadn’t finished my master’s yet, but, so I’m a Senior Librarian I or something, but yeah I’m still a children’s librarian. I’ve thought about going for management positions and I’ve interviewed for some, but it just, it hasn’t worked out yet and I’m kind of, I’m kind of happy where I am right now. I really like working with the kids and doing the programming and working with the schools, so I’m thinking about the future but I’m happy where I am for the moment.
Right, and this leads into one of the, before we got started I asked on Twitter, people for questions and one of the questions was from Glenn Fleishman, I’m not sure who he is, he’s not verified on Twitter so I’m not sure about that…
Don’t say that, he’ll…
He won’t like that joke, [laughs] but he asked, what’s the difference between when you were thinking about being a children’s librarians and what the actual reality is? Is there a big difference between those two?
Actually, actually not really because like I said, I had worked in libraries for so long that I knew the basic, the basic elements of the job. And things have definitely changed in the last 15 years which is to be expected. But, I think the major difference in my initial expectations and what’s actually happening is coming from a library on Long Island, which is where I grew up and where I got my initial training, and working in the Brooklyn system is just, it’s just completely different animal and I’m sure a lot of librarians have experienced this, working in rural libraries and going to an urban one, or vice versa, so you just have to really learn to go with the flow and expect anything to happen and try not to let things shake you up too much. I mean, it depends where you are, I guess, what city you’re in, what neighborhood you’re in, but you just have to anticipate that anything can happen and probably will at some point.
So, what is it about working with kids that you, that you like? I mean why did you choose to be a children’s librarian? Why did you want to make that your focus?
I just, I think and I’m not trying to say that other parts of librarianship are not important, but just, to me it’s the most important, it’s the most important field within librarianship to me. You’re trying to get kids to love reading from an early age, you’re laying the foundation for their expectations of libraries and you want them to be lifelong library users and lifelong readers, so I just, I always found it to be important to instill those things in them and also kids are just fun, as I’m sure you know, having a kid.
But, it’s just they’re, they’re very honest and they’re very funny and they often teach me more than I teach them, so I was just, I like being around kids, I initially wanted to be a teacher, maybe High School was not the best idea, teaching High School [laughs], but…
[laughs] I like the younger kids…
They’re just, they’re cute and fun and it’s. I like visiting the schools and they get so excited about libraries when they come in for a class visit and it’s this exotic place and then they realize, “We’re here, we’re here to help you, we’re here to serve you.” So, it’s just fun.
And do you do a lot of outreach to the schools? I mean do you go out to the schools a lot? Or do they usually come to you?
It’s both. It’s a mixture, that’s a big part of the job is outreach, both to schools and within the community. So, I don’t really know, I don’t really know what my preference is. I like going to the places to show the kids librarians can go anywhere and pop up anywhere and you can take books anywhere. And then the other part of it though is I like them to come into the library to get comfortable with the resources and the layout and everything, so it’s a little bit of both.
Another question that I got on Twitter was from Timothy P. Rylett and he asked, “In an age where e-books and smartboards are taking over school libraries,” which I guess we’re not really school librarians, but, or public libraries even, “What do you feel is a way to maintain interest in traditional library resources?”
I mean that’s a tough question. I think all librarians are struggling with that right now, but I don’t know, I just see libraries as providing both, or providing everything. Again, I think it might depend on where you work. My library system unfortunately, we don’t have the best funding right now, so we can’t do everything we want to with technology. And it’s getting better and we get grants and things like that and it’s great, but, so I don’t even necessarily have to compete right now with major technological advances. The kids are coming to my branch are not necessarily carrying around iPads with them, but that also gives us our, an opportunity to introduce them with, for example, like I said, we had, we get grants and we have, we’re expected to get some iPads in the library and I’m not really sure how that’s going to work out, if we’re just going to lend them out, or just have them, have them there in the room to use, but I don’t know. I think, I think we have to learn as we go and libraries and librarians have to evolve, but I’m always going to be a proponent for books, so that’s not going to change for me.
Yeah, I always say that the important thing is usually reading is the important thing and certainly we love books, but e-books is reading, too, and so it’s, it’s not a question of either or, it’s, let’s do both and figure out the best ways of using both.
Right and teaching, teaching people how to use the new stuff, but still providing the old stuff.
Yeah, I mean I personally prefer, and I think a lot of older people, not that I’m super old, but just prefer physical books and things like that because that’s what we grew up with. But when I’m standing in line at a store or something, sometimes I’ll whip out my phone and open my Kindle app or whatever and read some. So it’s convenient to have e-books too [laughs] so.
Yeah, I think we’re in a weird generation where we straddle the line between the two and the kids growing up now obviously, they’re using, they’re using tablets and stuff from the time they’re born practically. My friend’s two year old kid can manipulate an iPhone and I don’t, I barely know how to do that, so. The world is changing and we have to keep up with that, but at the same time I’m always going to bring out the felt set and the puppets and stuff, so kids are going to be exposed to that too.
Do you do a lot of storytimes?
Yeah, yeah, we do storytimes at my branch. Unfortunately, one of my storytimes has been cut temporarily because of staffing, so that makes me kind of sad, but I still get to do storytime in other ways. We have a weekend storytime where I work an intern to help kids get ready for kindergarten and that’s a core program, it’s called, it’s actually called “Ready, Set, Kindergarten.” And it’s hugely popular. I think the storytimes are one of the most well attended programs that we have, at least in my branch, I think it’s true for other branches, it’s just fun and I, that’s where I can bring in the music aspect and yeah.
Yeah, I was going to ask, do you do a lot of singing, or playing little instruments, or anything for the kids during the programs?
I try to, whenever I can, yeah. We do a lot of songs and then we play music and then they get little tambourines, or whatever and get to jump around. ‘Cause those skills are still important too, you know. So I try to incorporate whenever I can.
And getting them jumping around is important too, to get them to calm down sometimes.
Yes, definitely. That’s why I do the “Heads, Shoulders, Knees and Toes” so much, ‘cause it wipes them out and they listen [laughs], they listen after that.
We talked a little bit earlier about your personal blog, but you also blog a lot for Book Riot. How did you get involved with Book Riot?
I love Book Riot, first of all. Jeff O’Neil, who is the editor of Book Riot actually approached me, I guess based on Twitter and the blog and asked me if I wanted to do a guest post and I was, like, “yeah, sure.” And, oh god I can’t even remember what I wrote about, but it was, I had to do three initial guest posts and then they would determine whether or not it would be a good fit for the site, that kind of thing. So, I believe I did, it wasn’t anything library related initially, it was, “Genre Kryptonite” is the name, the feature that they do where people write about, if you get, if you get really into a certain type of book and I wrote about drug addiction memoirs because there was a time where I was, I just couldn’t get enough of those and I don’t, I don’t know why. It’s an interesting thing for me to be reading about and then, so I did the three guest posts and then became a regular contributor and it’s been a lot of fun. I, they’re really great, Rebecca and Jeff are really great to write for and to work with and all the contributors are very, it’s a very collaborative team and they pretty much let you write about anything that you feel passionately about as long as it’s book-related in some way.
And do you write on any kind of schedule? Or is it just whenever you have an idea for a Book Riot post…?
I think, I think other people are more scheduled, I’m sporadic, just because that’s the only way that I can function and luckily they’re cool with that. Yeah, now I’m doing, I’ll write about something and I’ve written a lot about libraries on there and they’re great about letting me do that. So I’ve written as things come up in the library world and one thing I wrote about and I forget the guy’s name, so maybe we can edit that in later, but on the Huffington Post this writer guy was basically, “Oh libraries, what’s a library? I don’t use libraries so no one should use libraries.” It was kind of one of those things that pops up every now and then about how libraries are obsolete and the guy hadn’t even been in a library in 30 years or something. So, I was able to write a response to that on Book Riot, which was then picked up by the Huffington Post, so that was, that was good and not even for me in a personal way, I mean it was fun for me, but also it gave a voice, an opposing voice to the library dissenters.
Yeah, it’s, Michael Rosenbloom is his name.
Thank you, god. Yeah. My memory’s terrible. Yes, thank. So yeah, so just things like that and so it gives a wider audience to my little rants about library, library advocacy. And then I get to do more fun stuff, so I, I have a column now that pretty much just started a month ago. It’s called “Dear Book Nerd.” That will be more regular, I think every other Friday it’s going to run so people can, it’s kind of like a bookish advice column where people can write in with any sort of book-related problem. It’s in its early stages, so, but I’ve gotten a lot of interesting questions on it, excited to see where it goes.
And was that your idea? Or did the Book Riot people come to you and say, “Would you like to do this?” Or…?
It actually was my idea, which I’m proud of. So, I, I mean, obviously an advice column is not a new, a new idea, but I thought it would be fun to have a Book Riot spin on it cause we have, we have a lot of readers and they’re very vocal and smart and funny, so I wanted to see what kinds of things they would come up with. I’m excited, I wanted a little, my little corner of Book Riot and I think, I think this will be good.
Yeah, I’ve enjoyed the first couple. [laughs]
Well, thank you.
I was going to ask you about that article you just mentioned that was on the, that HuffPost picked up. It seems like, I mean those kind of articles come up every once in a while, that the library’s doomed, doomed, doomed I tell you and, and it usually is written by. There was another one just a couple of weeks ago by a TechCrunch guy and they’re usually written by guys who haven’t been in the library since they’re kids and they admit that too and, which seems odd, like you mention in your article, if you haven’t been there, how do you know it’s, how do you know it’s doomed? Just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean nobody uses it. Number one, why do you think those articles keep getting written? And do you think it’s partially a sign that libraries need to do more work on their public messaging?
Or is it just ignorance in general on those people’s parts?
I, I think it’s a mixture of all of that. I think, I think they keep getting published because it’s an easy target, libraries are an easy target, especially for people who haven’t been in them and don’t understand what they do. I mean, it happens pretty frequently and while we don’t have to go after every article that gets written, I think it is important, cause some people have said to me, “Ah, just ignore it, it’s not worth talking about, you’re just giving him attention,” that kind of thing, especially with Michael Rosenbloom, but I think it is important because if people only get one side of the story, that’s, that’s the only side they’re going to know. So, as long as these things keep coming out, and we have to choose our battles as librarians, but I think, I think we just need to keep advocating and keep informing people what actually goes on in libraries. That’s the most important part. I don’t really care if people, if they understand what a library does and they still don’t like it, okay, what, you can’t change everybody’s mind, but a lot of the times people are very surprised to hear what we do, all the resources we actually provide, how technologically plugged in we actually are and how we can benefit people who might not think that they need libraries. So I, I think it’s important to keep talking about it.
Yeah, especially when they get published in a pretty mainstream thing like the Huffington Post.
If they’re getting a big platform then, and it was nice, I think, of the Huffington Post to reprint yours too on there, to balance it.
And they’ve published several other pro-library things in the past too, the, there was the one you mentioned and an article that, I can’t remember who wrote it, but it was the one that Alyssa Milano had retweeted.
Yes, yes, so that was a really good article too.
That they published, so.
Yeah, he’s a friend of mine. We’re actually, I don’t know, in Urban Librarians Unite together, it’s a, it’s a grassroots advocacy group here in the city and there’s a lot of people doing a lot of hard work behind the scenes to keep promoting libraries and every once in awhile we get a chance to have a, a wider forum, so it’s good.
How did you get started with that organization? And how do you guys, I mean, like you said it’s not really, it’s more of a grassroots thing that you guys, that people started and it’s not driven from an organizational standpoint, it’s individual librarians came together and did that.
You know all those [laughs], so many things just start with Facebook or Twitter, so, this also started. No, I heard about them, I guess, through Facebook and then I “friended” Urban Librarians Unite because at that point they still didn’t have their own account, it was a friend, you had to friend it instead of like it, if you know what I mean.
Plus one or something.
Any sense at all. And then I just started attending the events and they’re kind of almost like street theater in their, in their advocacy events. We did a zombie walk over the Brooklyn Bridge to protest the cuts and this was a couple of years ago. There’s the 24 read-in that’s held on the steps of Brooklyn Public Library and it’s literally 24 hours of people reading 15 minutes each, just continuously all through, all through the night to show their support of libraries. So, I, I really just liked their methods, it’s very, not in your face, it wasn’t aggressive or obnoxious, but it was, trying to be loud about libraries, I guess. And I also like that it was comprised of people from all the city, it wasn’t just Brooklyn, it wasn’t just NYPL, it was lots of different librarians, there’s corporate librarians, there’s academic librarians, all coming together for, to keep the city librarians going and I think, I think the group is becoming a little bit more mainstream, I don’t want, I don’t know if mainstream is the right word, but it’s getting, I think more recognition as an actual legitimate organization. So, good things are happening within the group and I’m excited to be a part of it still.
It sounds like you guys got, get a lot of good press when you do those things like the zombie walk and such and make, get the publicity for you guys to get people to pay attention and notice.
Yes, yes, right, it’s sort of like, “Well look at what the librarians are doing now, they’re going to hug the Schwarzman Building.” It’s, it’s fun in a way, but it also stems from very serious beliefs in library funding and believing in public librarianship, so it’s not all for show.
Right, right, the show is, it gets the attention and then you get the message as part of the show. [laughs]
What is your favorite book of all time? When I was doing research for this, I came across a blog post you wrote about the Wizard of Oz series and I actually loved that series as a kid too and that’s really, I put that back cause what really solidified my love of reading and libraries at a young age was that series. I remember going back to the library over and over again just to get the next book and when I’d read the first one I didn’t even know there was a whole series, I just got the first book because I liked the movie and whatever and it opened up a whole new world.
That, that was a great series and very, very influential. I mean when I was a kid ads were, were all dolls, books. I always just liked the weird, creepy kind of fantasy things and Wizard of Oz is very creepy in parts, so, I would definitely put that up there. But of all time I, I still have to say A Tree Grows In Brooklyn is my favorite. Both for the content and just the way, the way that it’s written. I think it’s just beautifully written and also it does feature a librarian in some of the parts, although it’s not a very nice librarian, I don’t really, I don’t like to necessarily highlight that, but it does show the importance of reading and education in a very non-didactic way, so. I, it’s, obviously it’s a very old book, it’s a classic, but it’s still something that I, that I tell people to read, just because of the influence it had on me, so that’s my overall favorite.
And are there any other kids books that you will often steer kids to? Like if they’re, I know in our readers’ advisory stuff we’re getting them what they, what would match their interests, but if they’re completely wide open, are there specific books that you always try to?
It’s a tough question and I find myself, and I try not to because I know, I try not to steer kids necessarily to what I, to what I love. Although I, it’s hard, yeah, it depends on the kid, it depends on their interest level and what they need, so I, I’m going to say no, no I don’t have a set, I have go-to stuff depending on the situation. I’m going to put it like that.
[laughs] I want to cover, I’m going to cover myself here.
Right, I mean like kids who love horror, you might have specific books like ghosts, you might have this or you might have this.
Right, mysteries and adventure stuff like that. But, a lot of the time a kid wants a specific thing and we don’t necessarily have it, like a hugely popular series or something and then I’ll talk to them to try and find something like it, even if I don’t think it’s the greatest written book necessarily, if I know that the kid will be interested in it then that’s all that really matters to me. Anything that gets them reading, I guess.
Right, yeah cause, I mean you talked about that a little bit earlier, that if you can get the kids hooked on the library and hooked on reading, then you’ve really started them toward a path of, not only because that’s important just as a human being, to be a good, to be a reader and love libraries, but that’s, they are our future supporters, so if you love libraries as a kid, you’re gonna love libraries as an adult and then as an adult you’ll pay taxes and [laughs] want to support the library.
And then hopefully bring your own kids there and…
Yes, right, start the cycle over again [laughs].
Yes, they’ll all love libraries, yeah.
So you’re, you are on, in addition to blogging you are, as you mentioned before you are on Twitter also. What is it about Twitter that you think is unique in, in a professional way that you enjoy or that you learn, that you learn from? I mean I know a lot of your posts are fun things, but then you also will post, I don’t want to say serious things, but just…
That’s a better term. [laughs] Educational and informational kinds of things. What, how do you think Twitter specifically addresses that kind of stuff? And what do you like about Twitter specifically?
I guess that it is, it is a mixture of, of fun and informative and you can be both at the same time, but, I follow a lot of librarians and there’s a great community of librarians on Twitter specifically and it’s really fun to see the different ways that people work out there. Not just public librarians, academic librarians too. I get a lot of great ideas from people, even that they don’t necessarily know it [laughs]. So I do a lot of lurking. I mean, Twitter’s how I get my news these days, especially within the library community. It’s just, it just goes so fast, so it’s right on the pulse of what’s happening and it’s also a lot of fun. There’s a lot of fun, funny people out there and I like, I just like being a part of it and hopefully contributing something to it.
Yeah, I think the fun part of it is what really keeps a lot of people engaged and not so much, because Facebook I mean you get the links and you can, but it’s not so much the back and forth and it’s not quite as silly, I guess [laughs].
Exactly, Twitter’s more like a, just a long conversation.
So, Rita, where can people find you online? We talked about it a little bit, but…
You can follow me on Twitter, I’m pretty much always on there, unless I’m away or something. My Twitter name is @screwydecimal and then my blog is Screwydecimal.com and if you, if you’re ever on the Book Riot site you can look for me there and other places, but Twitter’s the best, the best way.
And you can submit your questions to Dear Book Nerd.
Yeah, actually if you, if you want to submit it for the Book Riot column you can email email@example.com, or there’s a form on the site, on the other Dear Book Nerd posts and yeah, I welcome any questions and I don’t know if I can get to all of them, but, I definitely like reading them, so [laughs].
Don’t be shy.
Well, I look forward to reading those and to hearing the Librarian Rangers theme when that comes out. [laughs]
All right, thanks for talking to me, Rita.
All right, thank you, Steve.